How can there be goodness without a measure to judge it by?
The human mind is good at finding meaning in patterns of the world around us. Sometimes we find meanings that are real and measurable. Sometimes our meaning detector misfires and we get a false sense of what is true.
We see faces in the clouds or the trees. Does that mean that someone has put those patterns there for us to see, or does it just imply that our imaginations are exceptionally active?
By the same token, just because Christians think that there must be a fixed objective morality defined by their God it doesn't mean that it is true.
Even if we accepted that some individual god had set things up this way, it has to be said that it is not overwhelmingly probably that the Christian God was the one. After all he has plenty of competition from other extant deities, let alone the extinct ones.
In fact, on the evidence of the bible alone God manages to be inconsiderate, immoral, unreasonable, violent and cruel. Do you really suggest that we measure 'good' and 'evil' by such a yardstick?
Christians - when you say things like this you might not realise that it opens up a much bigger topic than you expected!
Doesn't the bible (Matthew 7:1) implore us not to judge? If so, how would it help to have a measure?
And as French philosopher Michel Onfray says
" . . . good has no need of God, of heaven, or of any intelligible anchorage. It is sufficient unto itself and arises from an immanent necessity - proposing a set of rules, a code of conduct among men." - - Atheist Manifesto page 56
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